Section C

C-1

JOHN HUPP, son of Balser Hupp

John Hupp, although he had no descendants, is one of the better

remembered members of his family. He, along with his sister Anna, was

remembered in traditions of the descendants of Balser Jr. and of Isaac.

From what I saw of him mentioned by descendants of Balser Jr., in

Licking County, Ohio, he lived to be 103. The information sent by James

G. Hupp (see section F) included mention that John was fairly wealthy,

and that he was shot on his front porch during the Civil War. I do

know that John died in 1863, I think in October or November.

One problem I have about John Hupp is that before 1850 I do not

find him in the censuses in Virginia, while there are some other John

Hupps which I cannot account for. Of the early Hupps in the Shenandoah

Valley (Peter, Casper, and Balser), all of them had a son named John.

There was also a John Hupp who lived in Rockingham County in the early

1800's who married Catherine Stoutemeyer, and who moved to Licking

County, Ohio in the 1820's. I thought that he was Balser's son, who

later moved back to Virginia. These two John Hupps were about the same

age, and at first I did not see references indicating that they were in

different places at the same time, so I thought they were probably the

same person. The problem with this was that I later found many

references to John, the son the Balser, in the Deed Books of

Shenandoah County in the 1820's and early 1830's. In them he was

listed as a resident of Shenandoah County while this other John Hupp

was living in Ohio. Also, when Balser's son John wrote his will, he

had no descendants of his own listed in his will (see C-3).

I also do not know exactly when John Hupp was born. Here are

a few dates figured from various sources:

Source: Date:

------- -----

tombstone in Neff-Kagey Cemetery 1787

1850 Census 1790

1860 Census 1778

age 103 at death 1760

These figures give a range of 30 years! I expect that the first

is most accurate, but as John was illiterate, I have doubts that he or

any of his family alive at the time of his death knew what year he was

born.

There is a possible birth reference of John, as the son of Baltus

and Mary Huber-- see A-7. That gives a birth date of 1774, meaning that

John lived to be 89.

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When Balser Hupp died, John bought the following items at the

sale of the estate:

1 Lot of Iron lumber $ .09

10 bushels potatoes @ 21c 2.10

60 bushels potatoes @20c all the remainder 12.00

1 large red cow do with a white face 11.50

1 young Bull 12.00

132 feet of oak scautting @$1 1.32

180 ft 2 inch oak plank @ 90c 1.82

1 split basket .63

a quantity of loose planks .27

1 Narrow axe .56

1 bread basket with Iron lumber .13-1/2

1 Grindstone & ----ings 1.04

1 meat tub .51

2 old barrels without heads .02

3 old German books .07

2 old German & 1 English books .09

1 worst horn & pr cards .51

2 stone Layer [?] .33

1 Glass goblet +c .40

2 Qart[?] Decanters .86

17/4 /crow augers 1.50

1 chest .26

1 barrel with some cider .25

Total amount paid: $48.26-1/2

Assuming that John was born in 1787, he was about 42 when Balser

died, and when he bought the items listed above. He inherited Lot #10,

which was a triangular plot of 45-1/2 acres. After this, he sold two

tracts he owned on the west side of the North Fork of the Shenandoah

River to the sons of his late brother, Abraham. Those plots he had

bought from his brother Benjamin in 1824 (for $1900, and he sold them

for $1500).

It is interesting to note how fast John aged between 1850 and 1860:

In 1850 he was 60, and in 1860 he was 82! He had his will prepared in

1862, and died late the next year. This was during the Civil War, and

as I said above, he was reportedly shot while sitting on his front

porch. He was buried in the Neff-Kagey Cemetery, but I am unable to

find his tombstone. My reference for the dates on his tombstone is the

book of tombstone inscriptions by Duane Borden, who did not find it,

either, but who had a list compiled by John W. Wayland a few decades

earlier.

C-3

The Will of John Hupp:

Shenandoah County, Virginia Will Book 11

page 9

Shenandoah County State of Virginia Feby 17 1862

I John Hupp being of sound mind do and make this my last will

and testament in the first place I appoint Samuel Neff my

executor who is to execute my will as follows in the first

place he is directed by me to sell all my personal property

out side the House hold and kitchen property and Collect all

monies owing to me not specified in this will and pay over as

is directed in this my last will. I give unto Samuel

Harshbarger my nephew My lott of land on which I now live

Containing about forty acres for him and his heirs forever. I

also give unto my Brother Benjamin if he should outlive me the

interest of five hundred dollars which interest is to be paid

unto him long as he should live and at his death the same

five hundred Reverts back to my estate. I also give to my

Brother Isaac five hundred dollars ($500) or his heirs if he

should outlive me. I also give Samuel Rush three hundred

dollars. I also give my Brother Balser Hupp one thousand

dollars ($1000) if he should outlive me. I also give to Mary

Rush if she should live with me as long as I should want her

One hundred dollars $100. I give to my Sister Anna all my

household & kitchen furniture and note I hold against her son

Abraham Hupp of one hundred fifty dollars and the interest on

the same. I also give to my Brothers & Sisters that are

p. 10

in my debt as may be at my death all that they are indebted to

me. I also want my executor to put up for my father and

myself a set of tombstones not exceeding $20 each. I also

give unto John Neff all the property in the house at the

Sulphur Springs + my line for the hous as long as it has to run

and two hundred dollars besides ($200) and do -------

remaining on his Samuel Neffs hands after paying) all my past

debts I give to my nephew Samuel Harshbeger as Witness my hand

and seal this day and date first above written.

Attest John Hupp

Abraham Neff

Jacob Bushong

Elias Good

I'm sorry about the lack of punctuation-- that is the way it is

recorded in the book. Of those relatives he mentions, his brother

Isaac had moved to LaPorte County, Indiana, and died just months before

John did. I do not know when or where Benjamin died, but he had moved

to Augusta County about 1840. Abraham Hupp died shortly before John

did.

C-4

Anna Hupp, daughter of Balser Hupp

According to her death record, Anna Hupp (known also as Ann or

Annie) was the daughter of Balser and Mary. This is the only record I

find of her mother's name, for her or any of her full siblings. To

figure for her birthdate is a challenge, for every source for her age

in inconsistent with all of the others. Here are the various sources:

source age implied birthyear

------ --- -----------------

1850 census 52 1798

1860 census 65 1795

1870 census 78 1792

death register 83 1788

In addition to these are the age confinements I can infer from

the 1810 and 1820 censuses. It appears to me that in both of those

years, Anna was living in the house of her father, Balser, and the only

other females in the house were her sister and her step-mother. In

both of them, she is listed in the 16 to 26 year age bracket. If those

were her true ages, then she must have been 16 in 1810 and 26 in 1820.

Although this is figuring from inference, and not direct data (as the

ages listed above are), I still think this gives a more reliable age

for Anna, for these were earlier, when she was younger, and when she

and her family members better knew her age. Thus, I believe that she

was born in 1794 or late 1793. But Balser was married to Barbara Grove

by late 1795, so Anna's mother, Mary, must have died soon after Anna

was born, perhaps even in childbirth.

In addition to the censuses and death record, there was also the

tradition of the descendants of Balser Hupp Jr., who thought that "Annie"

was 101 when she died. This I disregard, as it is far out-of-line

from the other sources, giving a birthyear of 1770. I do note that

there may have been some confusion between years and ages there

regarding this source:

person claimed age year died true age

------ ----------- --------- --------

John Hupp 103 1863 76

Anna Hupp 101 1871 77

Balser Hupp Jr. 108 1888 90

Notice that the last digit of the claimed age is the same as the last

digit of the year. I don't know how this would come to be, but this

does seem to be the case of confusion of the death year with the ages.

It was in 1818, when Anna was about 24, that her son Abraham was

born. They both continued living in Balser's house until his death 11

years later.

C-5

After the death of Balser Hupp, Anna bought up a good bit of his

estate, more than any of her siblings except for Barbara and Isaac.

Here is a list of what she bought at the sale:

8 cacthew(?) works $ .01

1 Black cow 13.00

1 Brown horse 92.00

1 Calf 3.72

1 Wash tub & funnel .25

1 Looking glass .20

1 large fallen leaf table 3.00

1 8 day clock & case 27.00

1 desk & book case 6.00

1 10 plate stone & pipe 20.00

1 rag carpet 3.25

1 corner cupboard 7.00

1 Candle stand 1.00

1 Looking glass .26

1 Corner Cupboard 6.00

1 Large chest .25

1 large Pewter bason with some

china +c 1.36

2 pitchers and small pitcher .50

6 windsor chairs 3.35

2 windsor chairs 1.50

1 dough tray .50

1 dough tray + 2 conck .25

1 school basket .20

6 candle moles .36

2 pewter basons + two dishes .70

2 pewter basons + 8 plates +c 2.00

2 pewter basons spoon & mug .50

1 old walnut table .25

1 old corner cupboard with its

contents 1.00

1 dutch oven + lid .52

1 small pot + lid .25

1 cut reel + wool wheel 1.00

Total amount paid: $198.18

In the division of Balser Hupp's land, Anna received lot #5, which

had 31 acres, and had river frontage. It bordered lots 2, 3, 4, 6, and

10. Living siblings acquiring those lots were Balser Jr., Jacob, and

John.

During this time (or so I would infer from the 1830 census), Anna

and Abraham were living with Isaac Hupp, Balser's youngest son. Over

the next few years, many of Anna's siblings moved away. In the 1820's

Balser Jr., Martin, and perhaps Samuel had moved west. In 1831

Abraham's family moved to Ohio, followed in the next couple of years

by Emanuel and Jacob. In 1835 or so, Isaac moved to Indiana, and it

was probably around this time when Anna moved in with her brother, John.

In 1840 or so, Benjamin and his family moved to Augusta County. It was

also then when Anna's son Abraham moved to Salem, Virginia, which is

in the same direction, but farther.

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As the other families moved away, Anna bought up some of what land

they left behind. There was not a whole lot of acreage involved but

she did buy some from Emanuel and from Isaac.

In the early 1850's, Balser Jr. returned to New Market, thus

increasing Anna's contact with him, as they lived only a few miles apart.

Then came the Civil War. I do not know exactly what all happened that

affected Anna, but 1863 was when John and her son Abraham died. In

May of 1864 was the Battle of New Market, which was very near to where

Anna lived (see B-42). During the 1860's, most likely after the war,

she traveled with her sister Barbara Harshberger and her brother

Balser to Indiana, to visit their brother Jacob, and the family of

Isaac, who had died in 1863.

In her last years, Anna lived with Sarah (Harshberger) Lightfoot,

a granddaughter of Anna's sister Barbara (see B-69). Her will was

prepared for her shortly before her death.

Anna Hupp's Will:

Shenandoah County, Virginia - Will Book 15

(page 181)

Near New Market, June 17, 1871

In the name of the Lord being sound in mind but weak in

strength and body make this day my last will and testamen this

day and date above written--

In the first place I give and bequeath unto Sarah

Lightfoot my neice Daughter of Samuel Harshbarger ten acres of

my land below the house adjoining ns. Harshbargers' land on

the north and Joseph B. Strayer on the East and Harshbarger on

the South-- Said land is to be Surveyed in a Suitable way

beginning at Strayer's Southern Corner and then running North

or about North and thence running with Harshbarger's land to

(page 182)

to make out the 10 acres-- and the balance of the land that I

own I give and bequeath to my Sisters Son (Samuel B.

Harshbarger) to have and to hold as his land forever. And all

my house property that I may have when I die unto my niece

Sarah Lightfoot and it is my will that my son Abraham's three

children Ida, Charles and Robert Hupp shall be paid cash the

Sum of ten dollars $10.00. Said money is to be paid by my

friend Samuel Harshbarger whom I make and constitute my

Executor of this my last Will and Testament.

Given under my hand and seal this day and date above

written and sealed in the presence of each other.

Attest her

Joseph Hupp Anna X Hupp (Seal)

Anderson Bushong mark

W. Ruhl

(Joseph Hupp was a son of Samuel A. Hupp, see section B)

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Anna Hupp died on 9/22/1871 of cancer. As I stated above, she was

listed as the daughter of Balser and Mary, and that she was said to be

83 years old. Other things the death register mentions is that she was

born and that she died near New Market. Also, she was never married,

and her occupation was listed as "young lady". The informant was

Lewis Lightfoot, a friend of the deceased. Actually, he was the

husband of her great-niece. But only a few months after Anna's death,

Lewis and Sarah split up, and he moved to Georgia.

I have no idea where Anna was buried, for her grave is not marked.

I would guess that it was either the Neff-Kagey Cemetery or the

Reformation Lutheran Church Cemetery. The latter is where Samuel B.

Harshberger and his daughter Sarah are buried.

<photo>

Capt. A. Hupp

Picture hanging in the

courthouse of Roanoake

County, Va.

C-8

Abraham Hupp of Salem, Va.

Abraham Hupp was born on 9/27/1818 near New Market. He moved to

Salem in 1840, about the same time his uncle Benjamin moved from that

the New Market area to Augusta County. Abraham became a very prominent

citizen of Salem, with many accomplishments in business and military.

A book on the history of Roanoke County had this to say of him:

<2 column article on Capt. Abraham Hupp>
C-9

<2 column article on Capt. Abraham Hupp, continued>
C-10

On 9/26/1848 Abraham Hupp married Columbia Ann Huff, daughter of

Powell H. Huff. They had four children, as shown below. The youngest

child died very young, and Columbia died soon after, in 1856, when their

oldest child was only 14. Abraham died on 9/2/1863 (the previous

article says 1862, both most other sources say 1863). He, along with

Columbia and Laura Belle, is buried in the East Hill Cemetery in Salem.

Abraham Hupp <177> (9/27/1818 - 9/2/1863) so. Anna (from A-9)

m. Columbia Ann Huff (2/4/1821 - 12/30/1856) on 9/26/1842

A. Charles Jasper Hupp <178> (7/18/1845 - 1911) see C-11

m1. Annie M. Klinger (3/1851 - 8/17/1905)

see list below

m2. Emma Sly (1858 - after 1936)

B. Robert Craig Hupp <179> (1846 - 1918) nm

C. Ida Penn Hupp (1848 - ) went west

D. Laura Belle Hupp (1852 - 1855)

It was while Abraham and Columbia were raising this family that

Anderson Hupp married Ursula Huff there in Roanoke County (which Salem

is the seat of), in 1852. I don't know for sure, but the only

Anderson Hupp I think this could be was Jacob's son-- who lived in

Indiana. Thus he would have been Abraham's first cousin. I would

guess that Ursula was Columbia's sister or niece. Anyway, that

Anderson was married here while he had been, and would be, living in

Indiana, suggests that Abraham had kept in touch with many of his

relatives. It may also be why Abraham's son Charles moved, although for

a short time, to northern Indiana.

After Abraham's death, I don't know where his children went, but

they were probably taken care of by their Huff relatives. It was about

the time of his father's death that Robert started attending Virginia

Military Institute, from where he graduated in 1867. He was one of the

cadets who fought in the Battle of New Market on 5/15/1864. During that

time he was very close to where his grandmother was living. I have no

idea if he got to see her, or even if he knew who she was.

In the late 1860's Charles moved to Marshall County, Indiana, where

he married Annie M. Klinger, the daughter of J.B.N. Klinger. Soon after

that they moved to Kalamazoo, Michigan, then to Grand Rapids, and

finally, Detroit. Charles' brother Robert also came to Detroit, but

I don't know what other places he had been before moving there, or

whether he moved there before or after Charles did. Ida moved west, and

no one in the rest of the family knew where.

Charles worked with the railroads both in Indiana and in Michigan.

He was the assistant general freight agent of the Michigan Central

Railroad at the time of Annie's death in 1905. He remarried in the next

few years, although it was not long after when he died. Robert also

worked for the same Railroad.

C-11

Charles Jasper Hupp <178> (7/18/1845 - 1911) (from C-10)

m1. Annie M. Klinger (3/1851 - 8/17/1905)

I. George G. Hupp <180> (9/4/1870 - 1932)

m. Mae Thrulby

A. Virginia Hupp (b. 10/27/1904) - Atlantis, Fla.

m. John Moss

1. Patricia Hupp Moss (b. 8/6/1933)

m. John H. Fleming

a. Lisa Fleming (b. 8/24/1959)

b. Christopher Frederick Fleming (b. 5/8/1962)

c. John Henry Fleming, Jr. (b. 12/9/1964)

d. Geoffrey Alan Fleming (b. 7/4/1968)

II. Louis Gorham Hupp <181> (11/13/1872 - 12/1961)

m. Lillian H. Hazelwood

A. Arthur H. Hupp <183> (b. 10/7/1906) - Delray Beach, Fla.

m1. Eleanor Brekke (9/30/1906 - 7/9/1975)

m2. Helene (Hammis) Berry (b. 6/19/1910)

B. Charles J. Hupp <184> (b. 4/20/1909) - Boca Raton, Fla.

m. Florence Cape (b. 7/8/1916)

1. Thomas H. Hupp <185> (b. 6/25/1943) - Hartford, Conn.

m1. Becky ---

a. Jason Hupp <186> (b. 9/8/1972)

b. Sarah Hupp (b. 5/6/1981)

m2. Mindy Piatoff (b. 9/20/1957)

2. Barbara A. Hupp (b. 10/12/1949) - Sewickley, Pa.

m. Richard H. Semple III (b. 4/7/1948)

a. Lunden Semple (b. 4/11/1974)

b. Richard Holiday Semple (b. 11/1/1977)

III. Virginia Hupp (9/1/1874 - 1955)

m. Claude S. Briggs

IV. Robert C. Hupp II <182> (6/2/1877 - 12/7/1931)

m. Elsie E. Winn (1883 - 10/14/1975)

A. Marion Agnes Hupp (b. 2/8/1907) - nun - Washington, D.C.

B. Robert C. Hupp III <187> (10/28/1909 - 2/10/1984)

m. Catherine Mann on 6/6/1947

1. Sharon Winn Hupp (b. 7/14/1948)

2. Robert Craig Hupp IV <188> (b. 11/19/1949) - Detroit area

m. Ginger Virginia Keena (b. 5/3/1951)

a. Laura Winn Hupp (b. 3/5/1974)

b. Katherine Mann Hupp (b. 4/6/1976)

c. Bronwen Morgan Hupp (b. 10/24/1978)

3. Nancy Patricia Hupp (b. 10/25/1951)

m. Richard Dormitzer

a. Lily Mann Dormitzer (b. 2/2/1984)

4. Peter McDonald Hupp <189> (b. 2/7/1953) - Los Angeles

m. Robin Yowles

a. Clare Hupp

b. Jonathon Hupp <190>

c. Meara Beth Hupp

(Charles)

m2. Emma Sly (1858 - after 1936)

C-12

It was Robert Craig Hupp II who was the inventor of the Hupmobile,

along with his brother, Louis. There was an excellent article in a

magazine about the Hupmobile, and I wrote them asking for permission

to use the article in this book. They wrote back, saying they planned

on using it in some coming issue-- permission denied. Therefore, that

magazine will remain anonymous. I will cover some of what was in it.

Robert C. Hupp was born in Grand Rapids, Michigan, and grew up in

Detroit. He worked in chemicals, coal, railroads, and joined Olds

Motor Works in 1902, becoming the manager of the service department.

In 1906 he went to Ford Motor Company, holding a similar position, plus

being and assistant in other departments. The next year he joined

Regal Motor Car Company, and the following year he started his own

company, the Hupp Motor Car Company, on 11/8/1908. He wanted to make

a relatively small car of good quality (many of the cheapest cars then

were large as well as poor in quality). The best materials and design

were used. Other men helping form the new company were John E. Baker,

Edwin Denby (who later became Secretary of the Navy), J. Walter Drake,

Joseph R. Drake, C.H. Dunlap, Charles D. Hastings, Emil A. Nelson, and

J.H. Peterson. The first Hupmobile was exhibited in 1909 at the

Detroit Automobile Show. There was a great deal of unpleasant work

getting it ready for that show, but it was that show which gave the new

car the needed prestige.

There were several models of the early Hupmobiles, identified by

letters of the alphabet. In 1909 there were 1618 cars built, 5340 in

1910, and 6079 in 1911. But in the summer of 1911 Robert C. Hupp left

the Hupp Motor Car Company, possibly over a disagreement with Drake and

Hastings. He wanted to expand the company, making many different kinds

of cars (as we have today), but the others were more cautious. At

that time there was also the Hupp Corporation, which was a consolidation

of Robert C. Hupp's other companies-- Hupp-Yeats Electric Car Company,

Hupp-Turner Machine Company, Hupp-James-Guyman Foundry Company, Hupp-

Johnson Forge Company, R.C. Hupp Sales Company, Rotary Valve Motor Car

Company, Hupp-Ellis-Rutley Construction Company, and Hupp-Detloff

Pattern Company. The Hupp Motor Car Company and the Hupp Corporation

were closely allied, but after Robert C. Hupp left the Motor Car

Company, relations broke down, and in September of 1911, Hastings and

Drake filed a suit seeking to deny the Hupp brothers (Louis was the

secretary-treasurer of the Corporation) use of the Hupp name in the

manufacture or sale of automobiles. The result of the suit, made in

February, 1912, was that there was a limit to the size the Hupp brothers

could print their names in advertising, that Robert C. Hupp could not

make a printed claim that he was the maker or designer of the Hupmobile,

and that the name of the Hupp Corporation be changed to R.C.H.

Corporation.

It was the former Hupp Corporation that put out a new car, the RCH,

which had been planned before Robert C. Hupp left Hupmobile. But the

RCH was not successful, and went out of business in a few years.

Robert C. Hupp went into other auto businesses, founding the Monarch

Motor Car Company in 1913, and in 1916 he was involved with making the

Emerson car in Kingston, NY. Neither of these was a success.

C-13

Robert C. Hupp died in 1931, of a stroke he suffered during a

squash game at the Detroit Athletic Club. He was 53. His wife, Elsie,

lived until 1975.

The Hupmobile was continued long after its originator left it, not

making its last model in the late 1940's.

It is commonly believed that the car on the back of a $10 bill is

a Hupmobile, and Hupmobile Club members insist it is a 1928 model. But

Bob Sealock has told me that that car on the money was just a composite-

no type of car was modeled. Perhaps so, but apparently it came out

looking like a Hupmobile.

The Hupmobile Club

As with many antique cars, there is a club for Hupmobile owners.

The mid-west region had a meet in Elkhart, Indiana on July 26 and 27,

1985, which was during my trip to hunt down Hupp descendants. This

meet was also organized by my Dad's cousin, Dean Hupp, and his wife,

Ruth, residents of Elkhart. It was in an area of importance regarding

Hupp history (northern Indiana). In short, I could hardly have asked

for a more convenient situation.

I had spent the last two days searching cemeteries, courthouses,

and libraries finding out about Hupps that moved to northern Indiana

when the meet started, Friday night. I am not a Hupmobile owner, but

I was invited to come to some of the meet and get to know some people.

I also knew that there were some other Hupps coming (family pride in

the old cars!). Besides Dean and Ruth, there was also Roy and Margaret

Hupp of Newark, Ohio (see E-11 and E-17), and Steve Hupp of Edwardsburg,

Michigan (see F-5, not to be confused with Dean and Ruth's son). That

evening everyone came, lined their cars up, and talked antique cars.

Later we all went down the street to a restaurant, walking a distance

about twice the estimate, and then waited a few hours before they had

a place for so many of us. There were a dozen of us just at one table.

And then we had a waitress who hadn't heard of a Hupmobile! We had a

great time (seriously).

The next morning we met there at the Holiday Inn and had breakfast

in our reserved room, which had the banner "THE HUPMOBILE CLUB". That

day they would take their Hupmobiles out on a tour of Elkhart County,

and made last minute preparations of their cars. It was during this

time I took pictures, gathered information about the Hupp families, etc.

Steve Hupp was concerned that his car would break down on the tour, for

he had had problems keeping it running. Ruth persuaded him to go on it

anyway, for surely there were people there who could fix mechanical

problems. Steve made various threats against Ruth if indeed his car

did break down. I did not go on the tour myself, as I left to visit

Dean's parents and brother in Illinois that day. But I heard the next

day that sure enough, Steve's car did break down, but as Ruth had

predicted, there was help, and the car was running soon. In spite of

what had been said, Ruth is alive and well.

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“Welcome Hupmobile Club”>

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